A Failed Sales Push by Chris Brogan and How You Can Do Better.

by Justin McCullough on April 3, 2010

in Business Insights,Leadership,Marketing Insights,Social Media

Ok, so in all fairness, the title should probably be:

Online Campaign – How Blue Sky Factory, Chris Brogan and Christopher S. Penn nearly got it right, but failed in my case and how everything here can make your next sales push a success.

But that title is just too long.

We all make mistakes and sometimes, the mistake is farther down the chain than we realize or have control over.

I believe that is precisely what happened in my case.  And IF it happened to more people than just me, you can bet the good guys: Blue Sky Factory, Chris Brogan, and CS Penn are holding the bag – their fault or not.

This is a detailed look at trust, marketing, and execution on an online sales push from some of the biggest names in Social Media – the good and the bad and how you can learn and apply this to your sales and marketing efforts.

Follow every bit of this through (except the last part) and you will succeed in your next email sales push. The sections I call “What’s Happening Here” should provide the key elements for you to model in your online campaign and sales efforts.

Nearly everything here is actually a success story other than the fifth area below.

First – Chris Brogan eNewsletter

Subject line of email from Chris: “Email marketing and the folks at Blue Sky Factory”

This is a great little sales piece from Chris.  It clearly identifies his role in the email, why I (we) received it and who it benefits and why.  On top of that, a nice bit of positioning and display of influence by offering an exclusive ebook download and discount to use Blue Sky Factory as a benefit to loyalty with Chris.  Well done.  This is the right sort of email marketing and who would expect less from Chris?

What’s Happening Here:

1)  Chris leverages his list of readers, his name, and his promise to help others in exchange for our attention in the trusted environment of his newsletter.

2) Chris offers value with an informative eBook and a nice discount if you use Blue Sky Factory for email marketing services.

3)  Chris gives clear calls to action if you are interested in either the eBook or professional services of Blue Sky Factory.

4)  Blue Sky Factory gets great promotion, visibility, and an opportunity to grow their email marketing list via the eBook link and an opportunity to make sales (which I’m sure they did).

5)  It’s understood Chris gets something from Blue Sky Factory for the effort (obviously).

This entire sales push is based on the value of Chris; his audience, and his usage of the Blue Sky Factory services, and his brand promise.

All this is very good marketing, strategically and tactically.

Second – Blue Sky Factory eBook Offer Web Page

Title of Page: Blue Sky Factory presents: The Ultimate Guide to Email

The offer page from Blue Sky Factory is a wonderful sales page that explains the value of the eBook, who will benefit from reading it. (I downloaded the ebook and would explain the value of the content, but Acrobat says its damaged and wont open – so I’m not sure, but I assume it’s high value content). In true Hubspot fashion, you have to complete a lead generation form to gain access to the ebook.  Give up some information about you including email marketing volume and a clear message to indicate how you would like to be sold to.  Well done.  Of course, you expect that a sales push from Chris is going to be this well done.

What’s Happening Here:

1)  Offering value to Chris Brogan’s audience as a thank you for responding to his sales message.

2)  Lead generation. Lots of lead generation from the Blue Sky Factory.  Each email they get could turn into cash and lots of cash if people convert and use the service.

3)  Trust Building.  Thanks to Chris’s endorsement, there is little resistance to the lead generation form and Blue Sky Factory gets trusted implicitly as a result.

This sales and lead generation page is well done. Excellent response items and a clear way to identify the person responding and how to sell to them.  Excellent execution.

Blue Sky Factory undoubtedly grew their permission marketing list and prospect list quite a bit.  So far, Chris Brogan, Blue Sky Factory and the reader (prospects) are all winning.

Third – Christopher S Penn Follow Up and Thank You Email.

Subject line of email from CS Penn: “Thank you for downloading the Ultimate Guide to Email!”

This well thought out and drafted email from Chris S Penn clearly identifies his role at Blue Sky Factory, an oddity with the eBook and how to fix it, and sets a clear expectation to expect follow up from a Blue Sky Factory sales rep.  Excellent writing, not pushy, and relevant.  Very well done.

What’s Happening Here:

1)  Immediately touching you as a result of the free eBook offer to personally tie the prospect to the company and to the next step in the sales process.  You have to create the connection with the prospect or your lead gen form and recipient become a number with no personal contact other than the eBook.

2)  Enhancing CS Penn’s personal brand and connection to Blue Sky Factory (if you didn’t already know) allowing him to leverage Chris Brogan’s relationship with us and give him personal access to us – should he choose to do so.

3)  Clearly setting an expectation to be contacted by a sales rep from Blue Sky Factory.

This is a great ‘next step’ item from Blue Sky Factory to move you further down the sales funnel.  And this is all happening more or less on autopilot because it was pre-planned, pre-written, and all the touch points plotted and setup.  Awesome execution of funnel building. Note, the email included sales reps names, company phone number, company website and CS Penns email.  Completely transparent communication here.  Also note, so far there is no “we are the best”, “hundreds of people use us and love us”, “act now, limited time offer, buy buy buy” messages in this email or the sales page or Chris Brogans eNewsletter.

Fourth – Blue Sky Factory Sales Rep Follow Up and Call to Action Email.

Subject line of email from Sales Rep: “Blue Sky Factory / Publicaster Information”

Now, after three touches with the Blue Sky Factory brand, this is the first somewhat typical sales message. It includes a brief message of thanks for my interest as well as various links to the Blue Sky Factory website and more information on their products.  All pretty standard “learn more about us” type information.  Also included is acknowledgment that the sales rep is indeed interested in talking to me about my interest in their product and asks when we can connect to discuss. Presumably the rep has seen all my information from completing the lead gen form on the eBook page, where I actually listed several questions and areas of interest.  However, the rep does not actually directly speak to those items I indicated so I’m not sure if that information is known at this point.  I am provided links to review and a phone number to call.

What’s Happening Here:

1)  Providing more information on Blue Sky Factory and products.  Which move me further along the funnel as I learn and understand more about their services.

2)  Clearly identified the interest to speak to me, learn about my needs, and ideally sell me something.

This email had a lot to review – too much in my opinion and did not specifically speak to my questions from the lead gen form on the eBook page.  This is not particularly bad, just worth noting as an area of possible opportunity on their side.  Again, this email does not have any swanky sales messages “buy now” offers or promises.  It clearly is a request to learn more from me and offer me ways to learn more about them should I decide to follow all the provided links…. Again too many links in this email, so I didn’t look at any of them. However, I did make a note to call the rep as requested.

Fifth – My Call to the Sales Rep

WHO WAS JUST FIRED.

So, now the breakdown. The kink in the chain.  The plot twist.

After all this excellent marketing, a truly well thought out campaign with many pieces of communication and undoubtedly tons of energy and time and at the expense of Chris Brogan’s name and list, the whole thing comes to a faltering halt – at least for me – all because the sales rep had just been terminated.

How much sense does this make? How many people experienced this? 2 (I count as one of them)? 20? 500?… I don’t know, but it goes to show how you can do all the things right to build the funnel, build interest and momentum, and drop-the-ball when it matters most.

The sales rep was professional despite the situation and did give me a phone number to call (which I already had from CS Penn’s email).  The problem though, is that I’m spent for the moment.

The one-shot opportunity the campaign was all about has come and gone.  My emotional well of interest, trust, and value has drained.  Not completely, but certainly no longer full enough for action.

Why did the Blue Sky Factory management team do this? I mean, either fire the person before the push so they are not a link the chain, or wait till after the push to utilize their role in the campaign and at least move the prospects deeper into the funnel and then strategically migrate those accounts.  But do it in the middle of the push? Crazy.

It should be noted that I got Chris Brogan’s Initial email (first step above) and called the sales rep (fifth step above) all within the same business day.  It’s not like I hesitated in my response and drug out my actions over weeks.  We are talking just a few hours here.

The Result:

1)  Lost confidence in Blue Sky Factory and it’s product – their fault or not, no matter, its happened (for me at least).

2)  A mental note registered against CS Penn and Chris Brogan – one that will either be dismissed as a non-incident and no real risk, or one that will fester and grow over time depending on my future experiences.

3)  Lost conversions.  For every prospect this sales rep is associated with is now costing Blue Sky Factory with little hope of the original ROI goals.

The Praise:

I’m sure its understood by now, but I switch gears through out this post between affected prospect and marketer…

1)  Excellent execution on the front part of the funnel from Brogan’s email, through the creation and leveraging of a valuable eBook and to the positioning of the sale from CS Penn.

2)  Remarkably well written sales messages that were not too pushy, did not have false promises, and effectively moved prospects through the funnel of conversion.

3)  Great timing.  Each follow up piece was appropriately timed and deepend the desire to act since it was timely and appropriately messaged.

This was a 98% perfect campaign, but the last 2% is where it failed.

How Blue Sky Factory, Brogan and Penn Should Fix This:

1)  Acknowledge it.  No excuses, just acknowledge it happened – don’t act as if it didn’t happen and don’t make it about me.  It may not be “your” fault, but that’s the burden of leadership. So own it and work with it.

2)  Communicate.  Maintain the same transparency and authenticity of the earlier messages and emails and reach out to each and every one of the people who got contacted by the terminated sales rep.

3)  Care. Show you think my interest is important and that the situation doesn’t define our budding relationship.

4)  Be Trustworthy.  Make every effort to regain the trust you had at the beginning and make it right, make it remarkable, make it deeply valuable.  This is your opportunity to win despite the written off and implied loss of this experience.

5)  Bring me back into the fold and remind me why I was interested and taking action to begin with.

An upset customer has the capacity to be a great customer.  Don’t loose sight of your efforts to get me here and jump in now and salvage all those interested people before it’s too late.

Conclusion:

This was a well planned campaign and you marketers out there should follow these points all the way through. Just don’t fire your sales rep in the middle of it and you should have stellar results!

Disclosure:
I personally like Chris Brogan (we chatted a bit at this years SXSW in Austin Tx and he has RT’d my blog before), and I like CS Penn and I also intend to get to know Blue Sky Factory and still see if there is a fit.  I follow all three on twitter and value their contribution to social media and marketing 2.o.

My hope is that this shines a light on effective marketing, how it can breakdown, and what we can all learn from it… And, I don’t blame any of the mentioned people – just acknowledge that they have ownership in the process and outcome.

  • http://www.thetrendjunkie.com gregcangialosi

    Justin –

    First off, thank you for all of the kind words on our marketing campaign. We take a lot of pride in our work, and its great to be acknowledged by folks like yourself. The above is a great dissection of our thinking and plan for this push – of course, all the way up until the fifth point.

    Secondly, I would like to apologize to you for how your experience ended with this campaign, clearly there was some very poor planning on our part, and with the launch of this promotion, we did not have our ducks in a row with our staff transition. There is no excuse as you mentioned, nothing I can say to make it right. It was a sloppy experience for you, and possibly for others, and I am personally embarrassed that this happened. You can be sure I have already put things in motion to ensure no one else will have the same experience as you.

    Thirdly, I am personally committed to restoring your confidence in Blue Sky Factory and getting you back to the place that you were at before you returned the call to the rep. I will personally follow up with you to have a conversation, and I hope to get the opportunity to tell you what we are really all about. We certainly are not about sloppy sales & marketing.

    Finally, I want to stress that Chris Brogan is a great partner, friend and colleague of Blue Sky Factory and was simply helping us spread the good word. I hope your mental note registered against him fades fast, as he truly did his part and was in no way connected to our follow up. In addition, I also want to point out that Christopher Penn continues to be one of the brightest marketers I have ever had the pleasure of working with. In hindsight, this was an excellent promotion, that in your case, suffered due to poor planning and execution on the part of management. For that I take full responsibility.

    Thanks again for the kind words, and I hope I get the opportunity to speak with you personally on Monday, or whenever it is convenient for you.

    Best regards,

    Greg Cangialosi
    CEO
    Blue Sky Factory, Inc
    @blueskyfactory

  • human3rror

    well said. well saved.

  • http://inthebellyofthefailwhale.com Rob Gokee

    Great job at 1) jumping on it immediately and, 2) apologizing and offering the best possible solution. Kudos, Greg.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Greg,
    Thank you for reaching out to me on this post. This campaign was truly excellent and in my opinion as a marketer – absolutely did what it was designed to do. I was prompted to write this out because all-to-often, the customer doesn't let you know when things turn bad – they just disappear. I also wanted to shine a light on what was right with the campaign for other marketers to see how it can be executed (all the pieces of communication etc).

    The fact that you have read and responded to it is just extra special. Thank you. I appreciate the consideration and we can connect Monday over the phone. Thanks for offering to do so.

    Lastly, kudos on your perspective and response. We are all in sales and we are all in customer service – aren't we?!

    And as far as my view of Brogan and Penn, no worries, they shine on… You and your Blue Sky Factory team do too. Keep doing good things.

    Best,
    Justin

  • http://www.keithburtis.com Keith Burtis

    Good breakdown Justin but I have to disagree with the statement that the salesperson who was let go by Blue Sky Factory should have been held on to until after the sales push. I know Greg and have had the pleasure to have conversations with him about his personal business philosophy (web 2.0 expo). Greg, you can correct me if I'm wrong but I remember you saying “Hire slowly and Fire quickly”.

    We have no facts about why this person was let go but I'm assuming Greg had his reasons. No doubt this person was an immediate detriment to the company and may have been more harm than good.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Excellent point Keith.

    If you have someone on the team who will do damage or not the right person on board, there is no better time than now to take action – and in that case, their is no “best” time, because its critical at any time.

    I said “I mean, either fire the person before the push so they are not a link the chain, or wait till after the push to utilize their role in the campaign and at least move the prospects deeper into the funnel and then strategically migrate those accounts.” So, perhaps the solution would have been to 'migrate those accounts' immediately with a followup call once the rep was terminated.

  • http://www.ChristopherSPenn.com Christopher S. Penn

    Yeah, Greg's not allowed to take the blame on this. I appreciate the kind words about the 98% we did get right, and definitely own the 2% that we hosed, starting at Step 4 (where the sales message kinda fell flat). Plain and simple, we didn't time the transition of staff with the marketing calendar, and we should have. Nearly needless to say, we'll be doing exactly what you suggested; there shall be much UPDATE and SELECT activity in the database in the immediate future.

    In the meantime, I appreciate that you actually took the time to analyze what we did and told us the parts that did and didn't work for you. I'll be using them personally to help refine and manage the transition from marketing to sales, from Step 3 to Step 4 a little more smoothly.

    You're welcome to email or call me directly if you'd like to continue the discussion, about your experience or about what we do in general. I'm at cpenn at blueskyfactory dot com, @cspenn on Twitter (which you know, but worth repeating), and if you want to chat on the phone, throw an email my way with the best times and dates to chat.

  • http://www.ChristopherSPenn.com Christopher S. Penn

    Agreed to you both. Like I said above, there shall be much SQL at work in the immediate future to fix those accounts.

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  • http://socialbutterflyguy.com/ DJ Waldow

    Justin –

    Apparently, I'm a bit late to the party. Greg and Chris beat me too it (as did Keith – thanks, Keith!). As others have said, thank you for taking the time to publish such a well-written post about your experience. I am sorry it did not end in the way you – or we – had hoped.

    I love how you broke down the entire process from great (steps 1-4) to fail (step 5). Feedback like this is critical to helping us improve our marketing campaigns. As you know, too often people are frustrating about a failed process and yet we never know. As you said “all-to-often, the customer doesn't let you know when things turn bad – they just disappear.” Again – I love that you not only blogged about it, but really critiqued each step of the way.

    I'll try not to echo what Greg and Chris have already said, but I did want to take the time to step through your suggestions for how we should fix this:

    1) Acknowledge it: This one is easy, right? It happened. It's our fault. We own it as individuals and as a company.

    2) Communicate: This is one we are going to be all over. After publishing this comment, I'll be seeing who else may have been impacted by this and sending an email to our team. Transparency, authenticity, and communication is the name of the game – always.

    3) Care: One of the main reasons I joined the BSF team 9 months ago was because of this point. As evidenced by the comments already from Greg and Chris, it's clear that the leadership at BSF cares. It's what attracted me here and what makes me proud to be a part of it.

    4) Be Trustworthy: When I first saw this post, I was already dialing your 409 number. I stopped halfway through as I realized it was Saturday. It may not have been the most convenient time for you (I mean, the first Final 4 game just started!). I figured I'd start here and then see what works best for you. It sounds like you'll be speaking with Greg on Monday. I'll offer the same as Chris Penn did – feel free to email (djwaldow AT blueskyfactory DOT com) or DM me a good time to connect…if you'd like.

    5) Bring me back into the fold…: Hoping that we are re-earning your trust as I type this. I'm hoping that you are “back in” – we'd love to move forward.

    I LOVE THIS STATEMENT by you: “An upset customer has the capacity to be a great customer. Don’t lose sight of your efforts to get me here and jump in now and salvage all those interested people before it’s too late.” That is one of the reasons Greg has invested heavily in hiring smart, caring, knowledgeable people (as Keith said, “Hire slowly…”). Heck – he even brought a Director of Community (me!) on board to be on the lookout for these things. Of course, Greg and Chris both beat me to it (not that I'm competitive or anything – ha ha).

    Finally, your point, “We are all in sales and we are all in customer service – aren't we?!” is so so so true. We believe that too.

    Looking forward to continuing the conversation … soon.

    DJ Waldow
    Director of Community, Blue Sky Factory
    @djwaldow

  • Gary Tomes

    If you don't have the facts, how can you say “no doubt”? You're jumping the gun and therefore adding nothing but conjecture.

  • djwaldow

    @Leader4hire thanks again for a well-written post. sorry that happened. 100% our fault. See comments…

  • Misako Lauritzen

    Hi Justin.

    First of all, I just want to thank you for this extremely well-thought out entry. It is a great service to all of us who are in sales and marketing (and who isn't these days!), and we all can learn a lot from it.

    Key takeaway for me was the importance of human touchpoints. I know that the main point Justin wanted to make wasn't that, but I could not help thinking of “expectation” Justin must have had when he made a call to the sales person. How his “expectation” was betrayed when he found out the the sales person was no longer with the company and could not satisfy his needs.

    I also thought about the pre-existed relationships that Justin had with people associated with the company, namely Chris Brogan and Christopher S. Penn. These relationships are built on trust, and how it continues to make a difference even after the incident with the sales person.

    And how people associated with Blue Sky Factory reached out to Justin as a result of this article. This makes a huge difference in future relationship that Justin is going to have with the company. Nothing has a greater impact than people showing that they care… It illustrates how crucial it is nowadays to listen to customers, especially what conversations they are having online, and to respond quickly.

    Indeed, conscientious customers like Justin are very rare. Most customers, when they have had an unpleasant experience with a company, leave without saying a word and never return. His careful analysis shows that he really cares. And I believe there will be a great payoff for companies who listen with serious concern and take actions accordingly (and Blue Sky Factory does this brilliantly thus far).

    Misako Lauritzen, @mlauritzen

  • http://twitter.com/hdbbstephen Stephen Smith

    This post is an excellent analysis of the sales funnel process and, coupled with the comments here, would make a very informative case-study if someone were interested in writing a book about these things…

  • http://twitter.com/MichaelProcopio Michael Procopio

    Very well written post. I've been doing this since 1985 before cell phones were so pervasive. The first thought that crossed my mind was – in the old days the phone call would have gone to the office and it could have been handled there. My second thought was although it is not great practice I could easily see the campaign going on without marketing telling sales the exact timing. It seems clear that the sales person didn't send the email, he was fired.

    I do agree with you that there should have been follow-up on all the emails sent with that sales person's name. But the rest of my perspective is different. If I was enticed enough to pick up the phone to call the sales guy and he gave me another number I would have immediately dialed the new number. While I think Blue Sky might be a little embarrassed, I tend to forgive people an embarrassing mistake.

    So how to fix this in the future:

    1/make sure you are in communications with sales on exactly what is happening and when

    2/use a phone service where you control the phone numbers and it forwards to the sales person (like a paid version of Google Voice) so that if something like this happens you redirect the forwarding to the appropriate person.

    Keep up the good work.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Excellent advice on syncing up marketing with the sales team and controlling the phone number. Thanks for adding to the quality of this post Michael.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Interesting note Stephen. Indeed this would make for a great case study. The Blue Sky Factory team have done an excellent job tending to the details. I love it.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Thank you Misako. Excellent feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed the information and views here.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    DJ,
    This is a great response. Thanks for such detailed feedback and I am really enjoying that you guys at Blue Sky Factory are all chiming in and showing your concern and interest. Awesome. We'll be in touch soon.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    I'm glad this has helped you guys. From twitter feedback and a few emails I have recieved it looks like this post is valuable to many professional marketers and writers. Glad to know it's shining the light as intended.

    I'm happy to help with more feedback on Step 3 and Step 4 if you want a bit more information on my thoughts and perceptions as the recipient of those sales messages.

    We'll be in touch soon.

    Thanks!

  • http://www.ChristopherSPenn.com Christopher S. Penn

    I'd love more feedback, no matter how the sales part of the process goes. I'm always interested in learning more and doing better. Feel free to keep it going here in the comments where it can benefit everyone or email privately if there's stuff that shouldn't be findable in Google.

    Appreciate it!

  • http://www.ChristopherSPenn.com Christopher S. Penn

    Also, not that it needs to be said for you guys who have experience, but official policy is of course no comment on the reasons for why we part ways with folks except to say that we wish them the very best success in all their endeavors.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Absolutely – which is why I articulated those details about the sales rep the way I did. No name dropping etc.

  • http://detroit.fwix.com Jamie Favreau

    This is great analysis!! I am learning a lot this year and this is a great way to educate people on the sales process. I am glad the problem is being solved too. I think everyone can learn from this.

  • berniebay

    Justin,
    You summarized this in a very professional manner. The response from Greg and Chris and others from BSF speak for themselves. They are great marketers and classy business folks.

    Don't be surprised if this analysis becomes a case study. I'm sure BSF will be better off for it thanks to your analysis and professional communication. I've come to expect nothing less from you.
    Cheers,
    Bernie Borges
    @berniebay

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  • http://www.twitter.com/unmarketing unmarketing

    Great well thought out post with a terrible sensationalist headline name grab.

    It takes away from the actual value of the post.

    Why use Chris Brogan's name in the headline. You know full well this had nothing to do with it and everything to do with a process oversight at the end of the sales chain.

    I know “why” it' generates clicks on Twitter and grabs attention, but then the content doesn't back it up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.brimm Mark Brimm

    Good post, Justin. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

    Kind of a long post (even for me!), but very cogent and orderly, nonetheless. I understand the reasons for writing it and can easily forgive the length on a post you really believe in, and because I know what it is to be a business owner and attempt a new marketing channel and push and see it not go off as planned.

    Certainly people will be skimming rather hurriedly through this very post just as you had to do through the follow-up sales literature with Blue Sky (another point at which I sympathize with you–sales is about selling. All the red sales tape should probably have been compacted into an outline and a light walk through done via phone).

    All that said, I have to begrudgingly agree a little with Mr. “Unmarketing” in that Chris Brogan basically just helped put out their name and (if this is true) use his list, even though he does inevitably bear some of the weight of such a “fail”. Not sure it warrants sticking his name in the title and calling it a “fail” on his part when Blue Sky pretty much owns the blame. I will say, however, that Brogan increasingly has his oars in an awful lot of boats, and that a lot of these companies his company is partnering with are kind of young in every sense (don't really know about Blue Sky in particular). It would make more sense to me if Chris Brogan scaled back as promised just recently (via his blog) and focused more on his strengths (inspiring, speaking, teaching newbies and corporate execs about social media), but he obviously can't lend his name out too casually to partnering companies when there is no proven track record with the existing people in place (including sales people). So like the marriage ref, I'm willing to call this on on your side, but note that the title is just a tad bit unfair to Chris, whose role seems remote. Also, I couldn't make out where they took your money and didn't deliver. What I think I read seems to say that the sales machine broke down mid-sale. It's happened to me many a time. Worthy of a blog post, even if money hasn't been put on the table, because you spent your time with the company, which is often too narrow a window already.

    Also, kudos to Greg for owning the problem here on Justin's post. That shows something under the hood.

    With respect,
    -Mark

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  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Hi Jamie.
    Thanks for the note and glad you stopped by!

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Hi Bernie,
    Greg, CS Penn, Brogan and DJ are all great guys. They've all been on point regarding this post and I couldn't ask for more. Additional followup with Blue Sky Factory has already occurred offline and will continue this week. BSF is top shelf!

    Thanks for stopping by Bernie.

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Sensationalist headlines…

    Well, I can see that perspective too Scott. For me, this all started because of Brogan's email newsletter where he directly solicited his list and it took Brogan to make this sales push for Blue Sky Factory or I would not have been checking out Blue Sky Factory.

    I may have been a bit edgy with my headline, but I wasn't being over the top and it wasn't my intention to go crazy on promoting this post and get sensational. Here's my thinking….

    There are many marketers who follow Brogan who want to know what he is doing on the client side and to learn from what he does (including myself) and in my mind, I saw this as an example of how a sales push (marketing effort) was almost perfect until the last step and it was that last step in the sales push that failed. For me, it really wasn't a stretch or act of sensationalism to come up with that headline. For me, it was experiential and from beginning to end was just a few hours from when I got the Brogan email to the call with the sales rep.

    For what it's worth, seeing your line of thinking on the headline, I should note that the first twitter message I sent out was:

    @chrisbrogan your @blueskyfactory sales email was effective. I responded. It all fell apart w/ sales rep. My Story Here http://bit.ly/crX7Qo 11:50 AM Apr 3rd via web

    and I didnt send any tweets (this headline or otherwise) out because I was waiting on the response from Chris and Blue Sky Factory first – its about them, and I wasnt trying to have link fodder and traffic, I was trying to communicate the situation… So I sent that one tweet and just waited. About two hours later Greg responded on my blog and Chris Brogan tweeted this blog post to his network – see the bit.ly stats here http://bit.ly/info/cHuD3M and I haven't gotten any feedback from Brogan indicating he felt it was an issue.

    From there, if you check my twitter stream http://leader4hire.net/LeaderehireBroganStream.pdf you'll notice that I was not actually tweeting out the headline at all – I directed a few people, like yourself, to specifically look at the responses from Blue Sky Factory, because I thought it was great Marketing 2.0 response but otherwise I didn't push this out with a focus on the headline.

    My point here, with the stats and view of my stream, is that I was not trying to sensationalize the title for marketing purposes as you may be thinking. I was summarizing my perspective from beginning to end.

    - I'm sure I've over communicated my point here, but that's the idea right – explain what you are thinking and why so we can all understand and disagree or agree.

    So, thanks Scott, I appreciate your feedback – as always. You always encourage me to look a little closer and a little harder.

    For what its worth, THIS is a headline I wrote specifically to be sensational http://leader4hire.net/2009/11/seth-godin-liar-…

    Thanks!
    Justin

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Hey Mark,
    Thanks for the feedback – look below for more on your concern with Chris Brogan in the title of the post.

    As to a few other points, yes it's long! About 2,500 words actually! Also, there was no sale – not yet at least.

    Thanks for laboring through the post and adding your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

    Best,
    Justin

  • http://www.hallme.com/blog/author/amanda/ amanda_pants

    Whoa was that just a Marriage Ref reference?

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Ha! I believe it was!

  • http://www.leader4hire.net Leader4hire

    Ha! I believe it was!

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